Ricci (along with several other internet marketers), at She-Sales Seminars is screaming foul, murder, calamity, and in all other ways, DECEIT over TweeterGetter. TweeterGetter is a new viral Twitter community building application that works by allowing you to not only promote your own Twitter page, but also letting all of your followers promote your Twitter page too, while they promote their own.
In any event, many marketers are upset and say that Gary McCaffrey is “prostituting” Twitter. I think it’s mainly jealousy speaking, as they can’t stand to see people taking “shortcuts.”
Those who don’t think it’s a shortcut claim that it just doesn’t work, because “ReTweeting Gary’s message only benefits him.” They argue that your followers are already following you, thus you don’t gain any new followers and only Gary benefits. This argument is easily proven false by acknowledging that yes, my followers are already following me, but THEIR followers aren’t! When they sign up for TweeterGetter under me, all of their followers who see the value in TweeterGetter don’t just follow Gary, they follow me too!
Now for those same marketers crying, “Where’s the relationship in that?” I ask you, is this not the same thing as the EXTENDED Networks found on LinkedIn? Do those disgust you too?
What about this whole thing just being a ploy to get Gary more followers? Well, if anyone signs up and doesn’t want to follow Gary, they don’t have to — they can simply untick that box. What this means is that not only is Gary not charging for his application, but he isn’t even making it a requirement to follow him to use it. Which I don’t think would be unfair if he did.
I argued in the She-Sales Seminar thread that crying foul over someone getting a bunch of followers is stupid, because unless I provide quality content to my follower I won’t be keeping them anyway. The fact is, if you follow me on Twitter and all I do is spam you, you’re not sticking around anyway. The only way you remain a follower of mine is IF I provide value to your Tweeting experience. Thus that “relationship building” they are complaining is missing is actually VERY MUCH PRESENT. And if it isn’t present, then you lose your followers anyway — thus leaving their whole reason for waving the red flag null in void!
Face it folks, this is nonsense! TweeterGetter is a great idea, and Gary’s only sin is that when he introduced it to the Twitter Nation he did so without Filsaime, Reese, Kern, Ambrose, or Belcher on his birth certificate. Any attempts to masquerade this “boycott” as anything more than jealousy and slander is simply ridiculous.
Please Gary, take solace in the fact that not everyone is against you.
Good night!
Amen. Amen. Amen!
I couldn’t have said it better myself!!!!
Exactly the same sentiment that I share, and that I wrote on my own blog….
But yours is very well written.
typical IM rhetoric and why you’re all laughed at by actual professionals
Typical trolling comment and why you spend all day frowning.
Hmmm, seems to me that if you were a professional, you wouldn’t be hiding behind an avatar – you’d be showin’ your face to the world! I mean you’re so great and everything. don’t you want everyone to know you?
It works for me in fact, without it, I would never have seen this great post.
You hit the nail right on the head, If your new followers don’t relate to your tweets they will drop you, by the same token, you can drop the ones you don’t relate to.
The short cut to starting to build relationships is a great idea.
Jace, yet another well written blog post. After just returning from JV Alert and listening to some of the most boring presenters who consider themselves gurus, with the exception of Joel Comm and Ray Edwards, it is time for the ‘nobodies’ to start becoming more vocal, developing their own creative ideas. I for one am quite tired of following the same old people who are merely ‘regurgitating’ their old ideas – I’m looking for fresh faces with new and different approaches. You’re spot on dude!
Nice to link here and say my own thoughts on this showed no thought, then just take the other side and praise it.
How in the world you believe this is a good idea is beyond me. It does nothing but promote mass following, and it’s stated purpose is to try and reach a huge number of followers without even having to go and follow them back.
It misses the entire point of Twitter, but I never said it was evil – and I don’t mind that people are using it, or even really care – I have a site that is devoted to promoting personal connection on Twitter, and so, in light of my own philosophy, this is obviously what it is.
A pyramid scheme for no purpose other than the pumping up of numbers … just like huge lists of facebook “friends” who never go within an Internet mile of your profile after adding you to their own numbers.
If you find this useful, by all means use it, but don’t go around bashing people who recommend against it just because you disagree.
Hope you get your 19k followers. Hope some of them actually talk to you.
Whoa, whoa, whoa…
First I didn’t say you didn’t have any thought, I said to see a REBUTTAL with actual thought.
Next, how does this miss the entire point of Twitter? Please, do tell me WHAT EXACTLY is the entire point of Twitter?
I can tell you this, it’s certainly not to get followed back by people who you follow.
it’s stated purpose is to try and reach a huge number of followers without even having to go and follow them back.
That’s really a laughable argument. First it’s stated purpose isn’t that you get a bunch without following them back, it’s that you can get followers without going out and following everyone. Furthermore, you don’t need to nor should you just follow everyone who follows you. I have followed several people who aren’t following me back, and I’m ok with that! There are several people who have followed me, and in looking over their Twitter accounts I have no interest in following them either. Following someone means that you take interest in them. You want to know what THEY are doing; it’s NOT about here I’ll pretend to listen to you so that I have a platform on which to make you listen to me.
This isn’t kindergarten, and I’m not going to tell you that picture you colored looks pretty just so that you’ll tell me the same.
And lastly, I didn’t dis anyone. You’re the one dissing it by calling the program a “scheme” and stating that the users of the product have only “one conceivable reason” to spam others. What I’m saying is that you’re slandering a product and the people who use it, and all I did was rush to say, “Wait a second, think about this for a minute!” So, before you come telling me that I should avoid bashing people who don’t use something (which I didn’t do), perhaps you shouldn’t go making a blog entry where you bash those who do. Or to put it another way, I wouldn’t have responded to your blog had you not wrote it. I.e. I would have nothing to respond to had you not provided the ammunition.
Good day.
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Ever notice how it’s always those self-annointed “gurus”, and their immitaters, who are opposed to such things…?
And….. How they often have this lame-brained idea that Twitter is “just like Facebook”…?
They think Twitter was designed as a “social network”…. (which it is NOT!) and that it’s somehow bad manners to Not follow everyone who follows you….?
They think Twitter IS Facebook !
They’re so confused, I’m surprised they know there’s a difference between a blog and an email…
Warning. Anyone know who Gary McCaffrey is and what he is doing with all those Twitter passwords he is collecting?
I think #tweetergetter is a very clever social-engineered attempt to harvest Twitter passwords. If any of your readers filled in the form and subscribed, I recommend they change their password immediately. Cheers — Mike (@MikeFitzAU)
MikeFitz’s last blog post..Ooh, an Inbound Link from the US Government
Prove he’s collecting the passwords. Prove they don’t remain encrypted during transmission, and that he actually stores them later.
When you’re done explain to me why all of the other 30+ sites out there that ask for your twitter username and password don’t have you standing at their door with your accusatory banner.
Hi JaceMan,
Just saying what I think.
I’d be investigating the background of anyone who asks for my password very carefully.
I understand that.
So, do you use any of those other services? If yes, did you investigate them? If not, did you AT LEAST blog about them with the same warning that you blogged about TweeterGetter?
Surely you believe that fair is fair, right?
No, I don’t use any of the other services you mentioned on my blog.
They haven’t marketed themselves at me virally.
They all have been marketed virally. Maybe just not as successfully.
JaceMan,
MikeFitz made some fair points, and why should people give TweeterGetter the benefit of the doubt? When a service sets itself up with the appearance of being a pyramid scheme then it’s fair enough for people to protect themselves with a healthy dose of scepticism until it can be proven that it is legit. It’s very hard to see how TweeterGetter adds any value to the wider webosphere. Bernie Madoff and his Ponzi scheme proved that even your best friend can be a self-serving chancer. So it’s up to Mr TweeterGetter to prove he’s not in the same bracket.
Meanwhile, JaceMan, just cheer up a bit.
Andy
P.S. Well done for making a controversial post, and suckering us all into adding comments to your burgeoning blog. A good bit of self-promotion, but with a lot more obvious value than TweeterGetter!
I’m unsure as to how making unfounded accusations is making “fair points.” That being said, am I being told to cheer up because I opted to defend someone or because I’m suggesting people not choose to “hang” someone before they give them a trial?
I think its a great tool to comunicate to everybody that its time to go back to nature and we can all meet there!!! Spread Da Love!
Thanks very much for a pleasent read.